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PIRTON PARISH COUNCIL

A Parish Meeting to discuss the use of the Recreation Ground was held on Wednesday 5 March 2003 in Pirton School Hall.

Present: Mrs Rosie Hamilton McLeod, Mrs Sally Lake, Mr David Saunders and Mrs Diane Bailey (Clerk).

Apologies for Absence: Mrs Juliet Alexander, Mr Owain Lister (arrived later in the meeting), Mr Rodney Marshall, Mrs Pam Waters.

Also Present: Mr P Bidgood, Mr J Charlesworth, Mr A Dec, Mr P Diaz, Mr J Glennon, Mr L Goddard, Mr M Goddard, Mr G Hyde, Mr K Lee (Lea Sports), Mr G Low, Mrs L Low, Mr M Patten, Mr A Quelch, Mr S Smith, Mrs J Stimson, Mr J Wild.

Mr David Saunders, Vice Chairman of the Parish Council, chaired the meeting.

The Parish Meeting had been called by ten parishioners to “discuss usage of our village Recreation Ground”. This group of parishioners were members of a group of residents of all ages who enjoy a casual game of football on Sunday mornings but have found it increasingly difficult to find an area to play since the building of the MUGA and were now seeking a solution to the problem by calling a meeting of the Parish Council.

Mr Saunders welcomed everyone to the meeting and sought reassurance that, despite being a member of the Sports & Social Club committee, everyone present was happy that he chair the meeting. Mr Saunders requested that everyone wishing to speak at the meeting, should do so through the Chair and went on to explain how the discussions would be conducted.

PARISH COUNCIL STATEMENT

In the first instance Mr Saunders called on Mrs Hamilton McLeod on behalf of the Parish Council to outline the legal position regarding the running of the Recreation Ground and its facilities.

Mrs Hamilton McLeod explained that in 1995 a legal Licence had been signed between the Parish Council and Sports & Social Club committee which handed over the running of the Recreation Ground and its buildings to the PSSC committee. In so doing the PSSC was given the power to organise sports and recreational activities and to enter into contracts with sporting bodies. From the outset PSSC entered into a contract with LEA Sports to play organised team football and this contract is still ongoing subject to annual reviews. There is no restriction on whether organisations are Pirton based or from outside the parish.

Pirton residents have free access to the Recreation Ground, but there is no right to usage which overrides any contractual commitments made by the PSSC. There is an obligation for the PSSC to act in a reasonable way and provided the activities at the Recreation Ground are carried out fairly, there is no case for the Parish Council to get involved.

PRIMARY STATEMENTS

Mr Jim Glennon, one of the parishioners who had called the meeting, was then asked to address the meeting. Mr Glennon stated that as residents they felt that an area of the playing field should be set aside for use of the parishioners at all times. He felt it was unfair that all the football pitches were let out to organisations outside the village leaving nowhere for residents to play. Although correspondence had taken place with the PSSC committee, he had not been hopeful of a satisfactory conclusion and so had called the meeting with the Parish Council.

In response, Mrs Hamilton McLeod pointed out that under the terms of the Licence, any solution must be forthcoming from the PSSC and not from the Parish Council. She also reiterated that there was no legal right to prime time usage of the Recreation Ground by residents.

Mr Joe Charlesworth, Chairman of the PSSC committee, was then asked to address the meeting. Mr Charlesworth acknowledged that a problem had arisen since the building of the MUGA which had taken up previously available space. He stated that the committee had tried to answer the points raised by the group of parishioners within the terms of the Licence but because of their current contractual commitments to Lea Sports, no acceptable solution had been found. The committee had no wish to sever their longstanding relationship with Lea Sports and were renegotiating the contract for next season with the hope of seeking a solution which would accommodate all parties.

Although not a resident of the parish, Mr Saunders called on Mr Keith Lee, Chairman of Lea Sports, to address the meeting. Mr Lee recognised that villagers wanted to enjoy a casual game of football and in the past had willingly provided equipment for their use and indeed enjoyed friendly matches with them. Relations had become fraught with the building of the MUGA and the subsequent reduction in space available. Lea Sports had offered the parishioners an opportunity to join their organisation in an attempt to find a slot on the fixture list, but this offer had been rejected. The current structure of Lea Sports Football Club is dependant on having three pitches available and to restrict their usage to two pitches would have a detrimental effect on the development of the club. However, Mr Lee was willing to seek a solution to the problem and felt that a rearrangement of the pitches at the end of the season may produce an area of free space.

Mr Lee was also aware of concerns regarding parking spilling out onto Walnut Tree Road and felt that the car parking area within the Recreation Ground could be extended to relieve this problem.

Mr Pato Diaz, a parishioner and casual footballer, was then asked to give his point of view. Mr Diaz felt that since losing their pitch to the MUGA, the PSSC had been uninterested in finding a solution to their problem. He also felt that it was morally wrong that an outside organisation such as Lea Sports should have priority over parishioners who paid Council Tax and contributed to the village more than Lea Sports.

Mr Lee responded by stating that a solution during the current season had not been possible but hoped that by rearranging the pitches at the start of the next season a compromise could be made.

Mr Peter Bidgood, a longstanding member of the PSSC committee, was asked by Mr Saunders to address the meeting. Mr Bidgood informed the meeting that in 1995 when the Licence to manage the Recreation Ground was handed to the PSSC, the then committee had invited Lea Sports to form the football section of the club. There had been an amicable relationship ever since and their financial contribution had helped the PSSC to come through difficult times. A youth section of Lea Sports had successfully been established by a resident of Pirton.

At the end of each season, the affiliated cricket and football sections of the PSSC work together to overcome any difficulties with fixtures especially since the formation of the Cricket Colts section whose training area in front of the pavilion overlaps with the football pitches.

Mr Bidgood pointed out that the Recreation Ground was generally available to the public on 6 days and 22 hours each week without hindrance and for parishioners to expect to find space at prime time during the football and cricket season was unreasonable. The MUGA had been in the planning stages for five years prior to its construction and no objections had been raised. The MUGA was available for hire during the winter months but this had not been accepted by the parishioners as a solution to shortage of space on a Sunday morning who seemed unwilling to compromise.

On an historical note, Mr Bidgood added that the Parish Council had been shortsighted in failing to purchase the allotments next to the Recreation Ground when they had come up for auction ten years ago. He also added that any expansion of the car park area would exacerbate the shortage of playing area at the Recreation Ground.

SECONDARY STATEMENTS

Having received comments from the main protagonists in the dispute, Mr Saunders asked for points of view from other parties present.

Mr Michael Goddard requested that an area be made available for parishioner use at all times but acknowledged that a solution needed to be worked for.

Mr A Quelch stated that contractual obligations should be upheld but that a compromise should be sought.

Mr Gary Hyde pointed out that despite being portrayed as an outside organisation, some villagers do in fact play for Lea Sports. He also felt that there was sufficient space at the Recreation Ground to find a solution.

Mr Steve Smith maintained that there had always been an amicable relationship between Lea Sports, the cricket club and the PSSC. Lea Sports maintained the pitches on behalf of PSSC and he stressed the importance of protecting the pitches especially during severe winter weather. He urged that when Lea Sports considered the pitches unfit for playing, parishioners should also respect this point of view and not play. As Treasurer to Lea Sports, Mr Smith confirmed that the use of three pitches was crucial to the financial viability of the club.

Mr Jonty Wild felt that parishioners were unreasonable in expecting fixtures and contracts to be changed in the short term.

Mr Graeme Low was generally disappointed that until the provision of the MUGA, sport at the Recreation Ground had not been expanded beyond football and cricket. He felt that the atmosphere at the Recreation Ground was unwelcoming on a Sunday morning with the domination of the whole area by football and that there was some problem with bad language.

Mrs Lesley Low stressed the importance of the financial contribution made by the affiliated clubs to the survival of the PSSC.

Mrs Joy Stimson reiterated an earlier comment that had the neighbouring allotments been purchased by the Parish Council for tennis courts as had been proposed in the past, then the current shortage of space at the Recreation would not be a problem.

Mr Martin Patten felt that discussions throughout the meeting had indicated that a solution could be found by realigning the football pitches to create an area of free space.

Mr Andrew Dec complimented the fantastic facilities at the Recreation Ground especially since the provision of the MUGA. He was pleased with the positive discussions of the meeting so far and urged that a way forward be agreed. He felt that by repositioning the layout of the football pitches a solution could be found.

Mrs Sally Lake informed the meeting that there had been a thriving football club in the village in the past which had contributed a great deal to village life. Following its closure, a newly formed PSSC committee together with help from Lea Sports had taken over the management of the Recreation Ground and without this commitment sporting facilities in the village would have ceased to exist.

Mr Bidgood confirmed that following the demise of the old football club, the then Parish Council had been uninterested in continuing to provide sporting facilities at the Recreation Ground and that the PSSC committee had been formed by a group of volunteer parishioners intent of furthering sports and recreational activities in Pirton. Without this group of volunteers, aided by the affiliation of Lea Sports to the PSSC, the Recreation Ground would have ceased to provide any sporting facilities. He added that the importance of the current affiliation of Lea Sports should not be underestimated and that if they were forced to move elsewhere because of a restriction to the number of pitches used by them, the continued success of the PSSC committee and facilities could be jeopardised.

Mr Owain Lister, Chairman of the Parish Council, joined the meeting and added his tribute to the excellent facilities enjoyed at the Recreation Ground through the continued hard work of the PSSC committee aided by Lea Sports. He acknowledged that the current problems had been created by the construction of the MUGA and urged all parties to seek a compromise. He added that parking in Walnut Tree Road had caused concern outside the remit of the Licence which had been brought to the Parish Council’s attention.

As everyone present at the meeting had been given an opportunity to put forward their point of view, Mr Saunders called for a break of five minutes before continuing the meeting.

GENERAL DISCUSSION

Mr Saunders recommenced the meeting by summarising the proceedings to date and concluded that the word ‘compromise’ had been mentioned many times during the meeting so far and that this was hopefully the way forward.

General points during the general discussion can be summarised as follows:-

The group of parishioners requesting an area of the Recreation Ground to be kept permanently available are not affiliated to the PSSC which makes negotiations more difficult.

The number of occasions when there is no available space for casual users amounts to no more than five or six times each year.

A vote by the meeting to agree a way forward has no legal status but merely states the majority view of those present at the meeting. The Parish Council has no duty to follow the wishes of the meeting and therefore a conclusion to the discussions rather than a resolution was urged.

The Parish Council is aware of the current problems and under terms set out in the Licence with the PSSC would wish to be kept informed of progress.

The original letter of contract between the PSSC and Lea Sports does not specify the number of pitches which are available for use by Lea Sports. Negotiations are currently in progress to update the terms of the contract.

Mr Lee was disappointed that Lea Sports are still considered an outside organisation despite their long term association with the PSSC. There is a proposal for Lea Sports to change their name to Pirton Football Club as an indication of their commitment.

Mr Lee also felt that a realignment of the pitches would solve the problem and create an area of free space. Confirmation of this solution would be subject to pegging out a new proposed layout.

The parishioners calling the meeting must accept that any area set aside is not for their sole use on a Sunday morning and that again compromise with other parishioners is necessary.

The football pitches at Pirton Recreation Ground were generally considered to be some of the best in the area and it was acknowledged that this was due in some measure to the level of maintenance carried out by Lea Sports on behalf of the PSSC.

Mr Smith asked that parishioners observe any recommendations from Lea Sports not to use the pitches in severe weather. Mrs Hamilton McLeod pointed out that any such request should be issued by PSSC and not Lea Sports, and that any recommendation to restrict use of the pitches by the PSSC in these circumstances would be right and reasonable but not enforceable.

CONCLUSION

Mr Saunders concluded the general consensus of the meeting as follows:

At the end of the football season the PSSC, in conjunction with Lea Sports, will attempt to make an area available for general use by realigning the current football pitches. The Parish Council would wish to be kept informed of progress on this matter and to comment on the proposed new contract between Lea Sports and PSSC.

Under the terms of the Licence the PSSC will confirm the conclusion of this meeting to the Parish Council, who will in turn copy the letter to the parishioners calling the meeting.

In due course, an article will be placed in the Parish Magazine confirming the provision of an area at the Recreation Ground for the use of parishioners.

 

 

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